Six Wheel Holiday Caravan

I found this photo ages ago. Sorry, but no idea about copyright. It looks like early post war cliff top location, possibly East Coast of Yorkshire.
The bus looks like a Guy CX of c. 1927, but can any sleuths out there identify the bus and location?
It beats me, and I spent many years in my youth at our Skipsea ex-tram bungalow, and became aware of most of the ex buses etc in the greater Bridlington area!
I am familiar with most of the contributing fleets to the post war caravan boom, but!
Bodywork has something of a Roe echo about it, being similar to some nc. Guys and AECs of this era from Doncaster.
This sort of "detective" work has a certain fascination!

John Whitaker

20/08/15 - 05:53

This looks a lot like one of Oldham 33/34 (BU 4843/44). New in September 1927 these were Guy FCX with Roe H30/26R bodies and the last for Oldham with open staircases. Both were withdrawn in December 1934.
It is more likely to be 34, which has an unconfirmed disposal to A. Gill of Austerlands, Oldham as a caravan (the unconfirmed disposal meaning in practice it could have gone anywhere).

David Beilby

20/08/15 - 10:29

Thanks David for identifying this bus for me. I was automatically drawn to Yorkshire Coast conclusions due to the KY and JX car registrations, and what looks like the rear of a Tilling bodied B10A of West Yorkshire origin. However, it could well be on the Lancashire coast, and the Tilling ex North Western. It is also more likely to be a pre war photograph perhaps. I knew Oldham had some FCXs but I was only aware of the enclosed EE bodied variety. Comments greatly appreciated!

John Whitaker

21/08/15 - 06:41

I can not add anything to the identity of the vehicle illustrated, but do like Davids thoughts that it is an ex Oldham Corporation bus, Oldham being my first job in the Bus Industry.
I do however have this picture of 'The Camp' Cayton Bay Scarborough, North Yorkshire.
No Double Decker buses, but I can identify a Tram body, centre left, a number of Bus bodies, what looks like a Trolleybus body, and at least 2 Railway Carriages.
Views like this are no longer a familiar sight across Englands green and pleasant land, mores the pity.
I am sure the more knowledgeable amongst us will be able to name some of the bodywork.

Stephen Howarth

21/08/15 - 16:41

Although parts of Yorkshire migrated to the west coast for summer holidays (e.g. Bradford to Morecambe) I am tempted to agree this is the East Coast for the following reasons: cliff top location, angle of the sun consistent with a summer evening, and wind direction - long grass bent over towards the coast. West coast invariably has a south-west prevailing wind. Plus those car registrations!

Mike Morton

21/08/15 - 16:43

Fascinating photo of Cayton Bay, Stephen. Thanks!
I think it is probably pre-war, judging by the general vehicle selection. If it could be enlarged, I think it may be possible to confirm a Lioness, 2 PLSC series Lions, and a trolleybus. At first sight, the latter struck me as an ex- Mexborough Garrett, but it appears to have a front entrance. Possibly Bradford 541 series but not sure at all.
What is the tram though? Looks like Leeds original livery but there were no open top cars which survived until disposal. Possibilities galore!
A photo full of character and nostalgia.

John Whitaker

21/08/15 - 16:55

I can get in closer (a lot closer) thanks to a very high res shot from Stephen, if you want that is.

Peter

22/08/15 - 05:57

Considering the close proximity of Scarborough, could the tram possibly be from that undertaking? (Opened 6th May 1904 - Closed 30th September 1931).
The one in the picture is of 3 bay construction, and Scarborough had trams of 3 bay construction.

Stephen Howarth

22/08/15 - 05:57

There is a Roe single decker with cutaway rear platform. It looks like a York/Chesterfield E4 but seems to be a motorbus. Also, another Tilling bodied B10A with its narrower central window.West Yorkshire probably.
My eyes are not what they used to be!

John Whitaker

22/08/15 - 05:58

Could the two long coaches shown in the Cayton Bay shot be former LNER Sentinel steam rail coaches? They operated around this region and would have been an easy move once withdrawn.

Paul Haywood

22/08/15 - 09:01

I think you are correct, Mike, with your East Coast reasoning concerning the Oldham Guy, although, as you say, the Lancashire coast was also a favourite for West Riding holiday makers.
I notice the cutaway platform Roe bodied bus at Cayton Bay is in use as a Tea Room, and what I thought was a trolleybus is, in fact, a normal control single deck bus minus its bonnet!
As Stephen says, the tram, being of 3 bay construction, could well be ex Scarborough Tramways Co.It could well have been repainted. Perhaps it had been there since 1931 closure, but it would have been a year or so before most of the other types there present would have been withdrawn, and thus able to join the camp.

John Whitaker

22/08/15 - 09:15

Closer shots

Peter

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