Eastern Scottish - AEC Regent III - GSF 645 - BB62
Eastern Scottish
1949
AEC Regent III 9612E
Duple L27/26R
This would of been a lovely shot apart from the glare on the front upper deck but then again it does
not take anything away from the sleek lines of a Duple bodied bus. There is as usual the decoration
associated with Duple more a coach than a bus builder on this vehicle which did spoil the looks
sometimes.
I started looking into the history of this operator but what a minefield Scottish
Omnibuses Ltd was made up of three separate operators Eastern Scottish, Baxter’s Bus Service and Stark’s
Motor Services. I think the history of the Scottish Bus Group of Alexander, Highland Omnibuses,
MacBrayne, S.M.T. and Scottish Omnibuses is far to complicated for this posting more for an article if
anybody is up to it.
A full list of Regent III codes can be seen here.
I liked these Duple bodies with the mouldings. However, am I right in thinking that Duple only made lowbridge versions with these features? I can’t think of any highbridge examples. I’d love to be proved wrong.
Paul Haywood
As far as I know you’re dead right about there having been no highbridge Duples of this design on AEC chassis, more’s the pity. The Red and White group had a number of very nice examples of both lowbridge and highbridge design on Guy Arab III chassis though. In addition to the "home fleet" four highbridge models were delivered to the Venture, Basingstoke fleet in 1950. These were reallocated to the former Newbury and District fleet when only a few months old. Here they joined one highbridge and two lowbridge examples of a similar vintage, all of which survived in Thames Valley ownership until 1968. Newbury depot also had some utility highbridge Guys and, following a couple of low bridge incidents when highbridge vehicles had been allowed to accidentally strayed onto the Lambourn road it was decided to renumber them in a series H1-H16, the splendid Duple bodied examples being H10 (the original N&D example) and H13-6 (the former Venture vehicles). The two lowbridge vehicles, which had platform doors and heaters as well as what were effectively dual purpose seats from new and which had been chosen to compete with the Lambourn Valley railway on the Newbury - Lambourn routes, retained their original numbers, 170/1. I quite literally grew up with these buses and they were absolutely superb. The highbridge examples were a little less luxurious than the lowbridge but still of a very high spec. Despite being non standard in the Thames Valley Bristol/ECW fleet they were very well thought of by both drivers and engineering staff and were both well used and beautifully presented throughout their lives. The two lowbridge examples were still invariably on all day workings up to their withdrawal. Sadly, despite rumours to the contrary none survived to see further service or preservation as at the time of their withdrawal Gardner engines were worth a fortune and all seven of these are believed to have ended up powering junks in Hong Kong! The buses that they came from were all scrapped very quickly thereafter. A beautiful Red and White highbridge example lives on in preservation though.
Dave Wilder
19/09/13 - 18:08
This AEC Regent would have been new, or acquired, to SMT Scottish Motor
Traction and is seen in a variant livery in the transition to Scottish Bus Group, which was created
ca 1964 and reorganised the SMT companies into Western SMT, Central SMT and Eastern Scottish, and
the Alexander’s empire into Midland, Fife and Northern. The Edinburgh SMT company had changed to
Scottish Omnibuses, to differentiate itself from SMT Motors (the original parent), which continued
as a Vauxhall dealership in Edinburgh Fountainbridge and Lothian Road.
Scottish Omnibuses had
acquired/merged with Stark’s Dunbar, Baxter’s Coatbridge and Lowland Omnibuses (all over the
Borders). The first two retained their liveries and identities into the 70s.
David Scott
09/10/13 - 08:29
Somewhat belatedly, may I add some clarification to one or two of David’s
remarks?
This vehicle would have been new to Scottish Omnibuses: they had 20 in all, BB61-80,
GSF644-GSF663.
All the constituent companies of the Scottish Bus Group pre-date its formation.
Western SMT and Central SMT both date from June 1932. Alexander’s dates from 1914 although the
familiar ‘W Alexander & Sons’ name was only introduced in 1924; prior to that, the company had
been known as Alexander’s Motor Services. The ‘split’, which created Midland, Fife and
Northern took effect on 15 May 1961 although the empire had been split, operationally, into
Southern, Fife and Northern Areas prior to that, not to mention David Lawson of Kirkintilloch which
was purchased in 1936 but retained as an operating subsidiary until it was absorbed by the
newly-created Midland company in 1961.
The history of SMT and its various fleetnames is
complex. SMT operated its first bus on 1 January 1906. The bus company split from SMT Sales &
Servicing at the time of Nationalisation in 1949 but secured an agreement to retain the SMT
fleetname for a limited period; the legal name became Scottish Omnibuses Ltd, though. Coaches
started appearing with both SMT and Scottish Omnibuses fleetnames in 1959 although, in 1961, the SMT
was dropped. In 1963 the fleetname ‘=Scottish=’ made its debut but the SMT diamond was
resurrected after about a year, before the company finally settled on ‘Eastern Scottish’ in
late 1964.
Stark’s Motor Services of Dunbar was taken over on 1 January 1964. From about the
mid-50s, however, buses on the Dunbar to Edinburgh service, which was co-ordinated with the SMT and
United services over the same stretch of route, carried SMT diamond fleetnames and a reversed SMT
livery. After takeover, the Stark’s livery was slightly revised and Stark’s fleetnames were carried
by all vehicles operating from Dunbar and North Berwick depots; the Stark’s livery was retained for
15 years. (And, yes, this does mean that the SMT fleetname was carried by certain vehicles when they
were owned by Stark’s whilst the Stark’s flletname was carried after they were owned by SMT!)
Baxter’s Bus Service was acquired on 1 December 1962 and, initially, buses operating the
former Baxter’s routes were painted in a revised version of the SMT light-green livery. The
management in Edinburgh, however, not for the first time - or the last - out of touch with
operations in the West of Scotland, seriously underestimated the loyalty of the people of Airdrie
and Coatbridge towards their local operator; within a few months, after considerable disquiet and
criticism in the local press, the management realised their error and Baxter’s blue livery and
fleetnames started reappearing on Victoria depot’s buses. This arrangement remained until 1977.
When David mentions "Lowland Omnibuses (all over the borders)" he may be mixing the
formation of Lowland Scottish in 1985 with the purchase of Lowland Motorways of Shettleston on 13
January 1958. Lowland Motorways’ services to the East of Glasgow and their vehicles, hitherto
painted in an attractive livery of two shades of green, were all taken over and their livery
disappeared. Lowland Scottish, on the other hand, took over all of Eastern Scottish’s depots in the
Borders and, additionally, the former Stark’s depots at Dunbar and North Berwick. Interestingly
though, in view of events 25 years later, in May 1960, Stark’s were short of vehicles and hired one
from SMT; knowing of Stark’s liking for Leylands, SMT sent them the ex-Lowland Motorways’ prototype
Tiger Cub H106, LYS943, and this operated for Stark’s for a very short period.
Alan Hall
06/01/15 - 05:47
The 20 Duple bodied AEC Regent IIIs were the only Duple bodied AEC double deckers built for anybody. There were a large number of highbridge bodies built to this or a similar design, most notably the Red & White Guy Arab IIIs, but also the 60 bodies supplied to Edinburgh Corporation in 1952 (finished by Nudd Bros & Lockyer, part of the Duple group) on reconditioned ex London wartime Guy Arab II (5LW engines apart from one fitted with a 6LW). These had a partial full front body, but the remainder of the body was the same.
Harry Barker
06/01/15 - 09:39
The bodies on the ex LT Edinburgh Guy Arabs were not quite the same, Harry. Though based on similar frames, they were built to an extremely lightweight specification that offered a truly spartan level of interior finish. OBP does have a contribution on these buses.
Roger Cox
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